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(The Creation Cycle goes: Liver -> Heart -> Spleen/pancreas -> Lungs -> Kidneys -> Liver etc).

from Paul Pitchford's Healing With Wholefoods.

I'm just a beginner when it comes to TCM (and bearing in mind that the organs such as Liver have a different meaning and significance than in Western medicine), but I was thinking about the relationship of the liver and the heart in that healing system.

Pitchford says that heart palpatations are a sign of qi and yang deficiencies of the heart. This includes signs of coldness.

Michael Tierra gives wormwood as a cooling bitter, so could it be that the removing of heat from the liver decreases the energy of the heart and produces palpatations?

TCM is a complex system, but I was interested to think about the connections. Of course that doesn't address the self testing issue.

I was also thinking about liver herbs. I tend to chronic subclinical liver complaints and find that stimulating liver herbs make them worse. I feel the cold so find the warming remedies like fenugreek or rosemary are better at the moment, but either way it seems very easy to overdo the dosage. Anyone that had alot of 'hot' conditions would want to use somewhat (but not too) cooling remedies, although my sense is that wormwood is very cooling and will produce side-effects. Would Susun call it a stimulating/sedating herb?

The other thought I had was maybe finding a herb that supports liver and heart function. Or digestitve and heart function... (thinking if the liver or digestion is being supported then it changes the whole body and other systems need attention as the change happens).

And could the prescription med have palpatations as one if its side effects, and the wormwood is kicking that off?

Wormwood reaction? Site 5 >>>

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